Comments on: BBL: Women’s hoops and UK-Mississippi St grid

By: John Clay

John Clay — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:20:00 +0000

Jack, I wasn’t correcting you. I was correcting the article.

By: Jack

Jack — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:11:04 +0000

John, the article you linked suggested (probably assumed that Louisville complaints were behind the cancel. I accept your correction of me, but I must say that is a really odd rule. Which is more evil: NCAA or Louisville?

Probably NCAA.

By: John Clay

John Clay — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 02:29:57 +0000

Jack, the report on another blog about U of L killing the UK practice isn’t true. UK killed the practice because it is against the NCAA rules to publicize such a practice, and word got out. Here is Calipari’s statement:

“We originally planned a practice at Freedom Hall on Sunday afternoon to give our guys a chance to practice in an arena that we will compete in later this season,” UK head coach John Calipari said. “The passion of our Kentucky fans in Louisville made it impossible for the word not to get out about the practice at Freedom Hall. Due to the publicity created by several media outlets, we will no longer be able to conduct a preseason practice off campus this weekend. We will schedule an open practice at Freedom Hall and make sure all our fans in Louisville know about it.”

By: Gary

Gary — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:23:06 +0000

I read the original story and automatically thought that many UK fans would be upset by making the assumption that the article was trying to insinuate that Patterson had obtained the truck illegally. I did not make that assumption. I see high school students with newer and better vehicles all the time. I figured that if his parents wanted to reward him with a new vehicle, then so be it. He has worked hard and will obtain his degree in only 3 years. Not an easy task for any college student, much less an athlete on the D1 level.

By: travyork

travyork — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:24:16 +0000

I know the paper won the 1986 Pulitzer Prize for Investigative Reporting by finding that UK was cheating and it seems to me that Jerry thinks that is what he has to do to be a good reporter. The thing is assumptions are not investigative reporting. Jerry implies cheating based on his assumptions. If this would have been an assumption about Patrick’s vehicle in a story about something positive it would not be so bad. The thing is this gives the appearance of Jerry having an agenda. So like Jerry’s frequent cheating assumptions people are assuming he has an agenda based on the appearance of this and several other negative stories. If his assumption would have been in a story about Patrick giving a woman a ride home http://kentuckysportsradio.com/?p=30522 it would have been both a positive story and part of the story. He went out of his way to imply cheating by putting a reference to the new vehicle in a story about a scrimmage. I do not have a problem with investigative reporting and calling out wrong doing. I do, however, have a problem with reports that are based on assumptions to fulfill an agenda but are presented as facts. I am not saying Jerry having an agenda is a fact. It is just the way it appears to me. It is just my opinion. That is the difference between Jerry and me; I am not presenting assumptions as facts.

By: Jack

Jack — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:20:17 +0000

Alex,

If the story you read was the on-line version, it has been edited now that that the truth is out. I guess it was also in print (I live in Georgia – don’t get the print version), so you might read the original there if you haven’t yet.

If you have read the original version and reached the same conclusion, never mind.

I do not agree that there are never positive articles about UK. In fact, John is the one writer that writes fairly but leans positive. I do not think this was blown out of proportion.

By: John Clay

John Clay — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:15:19 +0000

MM, you’re earlier comment was blocked because it contained an inappropriate reference. I attempted to e-mail you about that, but your e-mail address was bounced back to me as being not in service.

By: Dusty Roads

Dusty Roads — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:30:47 +0000

John,

It was admirable to defend Jerry. Thats what a co worker and friend should do. However, I dont think it was necessarily blown out of porportion. I read the article yesterday and it definitely led me to believe that the mention of the truck was an innuendo to create suspiciou about Patterson having such a nice truck. Then, I saw all of the reports about the mistake this morning and was shocked… because I truly went to sleep last night thinking about how Patterson could have such an automobile.

It’s just kind of weird to know that I can read a Lexington sports page and receive false reports and innuendos. Im sure there are more out there who felt the same way as me when they read the article.

This reminds me of when Tipton reported on the SUV that Rondo was driving and the suspicion it raised. Is he trying to spark the negative interest of the NCAA or something? Weird!

I will definitely continue to read your publications, but not Mr. Tipton’s. What a shame that we cant even read the city of Lexington’s own resident UK baskeball writer.

By: Jack

Jack — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:09:50 +0000

In other interesting news, I see it appears that U of L threw a hissy fit to stop UK from practicing at Freedom Hall. That is disappointing I’m sure to many UK fans in that fine city. I was wanting to see if we could draw more for practice that UofL did for its Red and White (Red and Black?) game. They keep that up and I will start calling it U of Loserville like other UK fans.

By: mm

mm — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:02:53 +0000

John, much respect for you. however my comment wasnt posted after being submitted 2.5 hrs ago. it was in no way obscene or inappropriate. although it did bring up some very interesting points, i guess thats why it was blocked.