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		<title>By: mullins</title>
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		<dc:creator>mullins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BCG is gone...BD is in...Done Deal!</description>
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		<title>By: gilly</title>
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		<dc:creator>gilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 07:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup #3 UK is real, real, real close to being a national contender. lmao

The fact is that UK didn&#039;t have the guards to play man-to-man all year.  Not Porter, not Liggins, not Galloway, not even Meeks could stay with their man all year.  Drive right past, then kick for an open three.  Rinse, repeat.  EVERY. FREAKING. GAME.

But the real gist of my post was not about defense.  It was about how basketball-savvy people like yourself seem to think we&#039;re just a point guard away from greatness when there are clearly many, many, many things wrong with this team.

And on a related rant, is Clay or anybody else going to do a little end-of-season research regarding this basketball god Pomeroy and see if his stats actually mean anything in relation to who the better teams are?  I mean we all love quoting lists that have the Cats near the top but it&#039;s hard to take them seriously when they&#039;re such a crummy team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup #3 UK is real, real, real close to being a national contender. lmao</p>
<p>The fact is that UK didn&#8217;t have the guards to play man-to-man all year.  Not Porter, not Liggins, not Galloway, not even Meeks could stay with their man all year.  Drive right past, then kick for an open three.  Rinse, repeat.  EVERY. FREAKING. GAME.</p>
<p>But the real gist of my post was not about defense.  It was about how basketball-savvy people like yourself seem to think we&#8217;re just a point guard away from greatness when there are clearly many, many, many things wrong with this team.</p>
<p>And on a related rant, is Clay or anybody else going to do a little end-of-season research regarding this basketball god Pomeroy and see if his stats actually mean anything in relation to who the better teams are?  I mean we all love quoting lists that have the Cats near the top but it&#8217;s hard to take them seriously when they&#8217;re such a crummy team.</p>
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		<title>By: #3</title>
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		<dc:creator>#3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Proof reading has been an issue for me in these posts.  I&#039;m used to being able to edit.


I didn&#039;t mean to say Kentucky&#039;s defense was the best in the country.  I meant to say it was one of the things we did best this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proof reading has been an issue for me in these posts.  I&#8217;m used to being able to edit.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t mean to say Kentucky&#8217;s defense was the best in the country.  I meant to say it was one of the things we did best this year.</p>
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		<title>By: #3</title>
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		<dc:creator>#3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gilly, I&#039;ll steal a page from John Clay and refer to Ken Pomeroy when it comes to our defense.  We haven&#039;t left the top 20 all year when it comes to Pomeroy&#039;s rating for the efficiency of our defense.  Beyond that we&#039;ve held teams to within just over 1% of the worst field goal percentage in the country.  Our defense has been pretty good this year, and it was most definitely the best overall defense in the country.  

I really question the overall basketball knowledge of people that claim we should have been running a zone defense this year.  No athletes?  Light on Athletes?  Size and athleticism were our biggest strengths all season long.  We are 3rd in the country in blocked shots!


Also I think if you&#039;ll look I said &quot;If UK had someone that handles the ball somewhere close to the level of Sharon Collins&quot;... I didn&#039;t say we need an All-American point guard.


But it is impossible to deny our turnover problem was our biggest.  There were less than 10 teams in the entire country that coughed the ball up more times than UK.  Simply solving our problem at the point guard would make us a nationally competitive team next year (keeping in mind the added depth, experience, and overall talent of the recruits we have coming in).

If we get rid of our coach, I think we&#039;re setting ourselves back several years with an empty recruiting class, and that just isn&#039;t the way to go about building a nationally competitive team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gilly, I&#8217;ll steal a page from John Clay and refer to Ken Pomeroy when it comes to our defense.  We haven&#8217;t left the top 20 all year when it comes to Pomeroy&#8217;s rating for the efficiency of our defense.  Beyond that we&#8217;ve held teams to within just over 1% of the worst field goal percentage in the country.  Our defense has been pretty good this year, and it was most definitely the best overall defense in the country.  </p>
<p>I really question the overall basketball knowledge of people that claim we should have been running a zone defense this year.  No athletes?  Light on Athletes?  Size and athleticism were our biggest strengths all season long.  We are 3rd in the country in blocked shots!</p>
<p>Also I think if you&#8217;ll look I said &#8220;If UK had someone that handles the ball somewhere close to the level of Sharon Collins&#8221;&#8230; I didn&#8217;t say we need an All-American point guard.</p>
<p>But it is impossible to deny our turnover problem was our biggest.  There were less than 10 teams in the entire country that coughed the ball up more times than UK.  Simply solving our problem at the point guard would make us a nationally competitive team next year (keeping in mind the added depth, experience, and overall talent of the recruits we have coming in).</p>
<p>If we get rid of our coach, I think we&#8217;re setting ourselves back several years with an empty recruiting class, and that just isn&#8217;t the way to go about building a nationally competitive team.</p>
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		<title>By: The_Lexpatriate</title>
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		<dc:creator>The_Lexpatriate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Acutally, John, JPAttaway is right - you are a hack who trades in rumor because you have a chip on your shoulder. Getting the cold shoulder from coach has got your panties in a knot. Based on the fact that the H-L and McLatchey are tanking financially, I would put my money on you losing your job before Billy does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Acutally, John, JPAttaway is right &#8211; you are a hack who trades in rumor because you have a chip on your shoulder. Getting the cold shoulder from coach has got your panties in a knot. Based on the fact that the H-L and McLatchey are tanking financially, I would put my money on you losing your job before Billy does.</p>
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		<title>By: Pinkies Up!!! Rumors Edition</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pinkies Up!!! Rumors Edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BenCats1</title>
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		<dc:creator>BenCats1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 07:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very good sensibe article. I have been following UK for 56 years and know basketball better than most fans since I played and have coached it at the youth and varsity military level. I have even questioned Coach Gilliespie on several things, but he is a good coach trust me. I like his defense, he is doing a good job recruiting, he was left with &quot;not much&quot; to coach this year other than Meeks and Patterson. The others are great kids but most cannot shoot consistently and play a good game now and then, but not game in and game out. If they were better, could shoot, rebound, not make stupid turnover, they would not have lost 9 out of 13 games and be playing in the NIT. They are not that far from being a good team as they are, a player or two perhaps. If they had won just 3 or 4 of the games they lost they would have made the NCAA. So too many people are being overly cirtical of Coach G in my opinion. He will get the job done. The problem with 85% of UK fans is they think they should in the final four every year and that&#039;s not possible. They are so avid, they are unrealistic in their goals. They don&#039;t stop and smell the coffee, all they want is win win win, and if not they get critical of everything especially the coach and that&#039;s not right in my opinion. A lot of it had to do with luck more than anything and not bad coaching. You cannot make chicken salad out of chicken poo poo! And that&#039;s the way it is from an old Eastern Ky fanatic who lives in Middle Ga. I know it hurts, but placing blame doesn&#039;t change a darn thing. Get real and grow up, we will be back and look at it that way not negatively!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very good sensibe article. I have been following UK for 56 years and know basketball better than most fans since I played and have coached it at the youth and varsity military level. I have even questioned Coach Gilliespie on several things, but he is a good coach trust me. I like his defense, he is doing a good job recruiting, he was left with &#8220;not much&#8221; to coach this year other than Meeks and Patterson. The others are great kids but most cannot shoot consistently and play a good game now and then, but not game in and game out. If they were better, could shoot, rebound, not make stupid turnover, they would not have lost 9 out of 13 games and be playing in the NIT. They are not that far from being a good team as they are, a player or two perhaps. If they had won just 3 or 4 of the games they lost they would have made the NCAA. So too many people are being overly cirtical of Coach G in my opinion. He will get the job done. The problem with 85% of UK fans is they think they should in the final four every year and that&#8217;s not possible. They are so avid, they are unrealistic in their goals. They don&#8217;t stop and smell the coffee, all they want is win win win, and if not they get critical of everything especially the coach and that&#8217;s not right in my opinion. A lot of it had to do with luck more than anything and not bad coaching. You cannot make chicken salad out of chicken poo poo! And that&#8217;s the way it is from an old Eastern Ky fanatic who lives in Middle Ga. I know it hurts, but placing blame doesn&#8217;t change a darn thing. Get real and grow up, we will be back and look at it that way not negatively!</p>
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		<title>By: gilly</title>
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		<dc:creator>gilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All UK needed was an all-american junior point guard. lmao

Well let&#039;s see, they also needed Jodie to do more than chuck up bad shot after bad shot.  They needed him to do things like pass, defend, and rebound.
They also needed a true center, a decent small forward and a halfway decent bench.
They also needed to revolve the offense around the best player(Pat) and revolve the defense around this particular team&#039;s skill-set(light on backcourt experience + light on athletes = zone).
Do I really need to go on or can anyone help me with a few more things that this team needs?

The single most telling quote from Gillispie in his two years that shows his disconnect from what happened to this program is the one where he says(even this week) that the Cats are &quot;very, very close to being a special team.&quot;
That says it all doesn&#039;t it.  The guy has no clue.  And those of you buying into it are right there with him.  Sherron Collins my arse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All UK needed was an all-american junior point guard. lmao</p>
<p>Well let&#8217;s see, they also needed Jodie to do more than chuck up bad shot after bad shot.  They needed him to do things like pass, defend, and rebound.<br />
They also needed a true center, a decent small forward and a halfway decent bench.<br />
They also needed to revolve the offense around the best player(Pat) and revolve the defense around this particular team&#8217;s skill-set(light on backcourt experience + light on athletes = zone).<br />
Do I really need to go on or can anyone help me with a few more things that this team needs?</p>
<p>The single most telling quote from Gillispie in his two years that shows his disconnect from what happened to this program is the one where he says(even this week) that the Cats are &#8220;very, very close to being a special team.&#8221;<br />
That says it all doesn&#8217;t it.  The guy has no clue.  And those of you buying into it are right there with him.  Sherron Collins my arse.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Brooks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Brooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 03:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gillispie has poor camera-presence, always seems ill at ease, and doesn&#039;t project warmth, and so the people haven&#039;t taken to him. (A coach whom the people like will find that it can cover a multitude of basketball sins.) But I think the admin and fans need one more year to test the validity of their impressions. I&#039;m not saying that those fears won&#039;t end up being justified. But releasing a b-ball coach like this at a school like UK needs to be provably fair, so that UK doesn&#039;t get a bad rep as a school that demands instant perfection. I have no reason to doubt that Coach Gillispie understands basketball, and if all the kids did exactly what he taught them to do, they&#039;d have had a very good season. Instead, they practically hand the ball over to the other teams on a silver platter, and nobody&#039;s a shooting threat but Meeks and Patterson. It could turn out that Gillispie&#039;s approach and psychological approach just isn&#039;t ever going to mesh, but, barring a total dereliction of coaching dutiy, two years is still too short a time to make a firm determination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gillispie has poor camera-presence, always seems ill at ease, and doesn&#8217;t project warmth, and so the people haven&#8217;t taken to him. (A coach whom the people like will find that it can cover a multitude of basketball sins.) But I think the admin and fans need one more year to test the validity of their impressions. I&#8217;m not saying that those fears won&#8217;t end up being justified. But releasing a b-ball coach like this at a school like UK needs to be provably fair, so that UK doesn&#8217;t get a bad rep as a school that demands instant perfection. I have no reason to doubt that Coach Gillispie understands basketball, and if all the kids did exactly what he taught them to do, they&#8217;d have had a very good season. Instead, they practically hand the ball over to the other teams on a silver platter, and nobody&#8217;s a shooting threat but Meeks and Patterson. It could turn out that Gillispie&#8217;s approach and psychological approach just isn&#8217;t ever going to mesh, but, barring a total dereliction of coaching dutiy, two years is still too short a time to make a firm determination.</p>
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		<title>By: #3</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is you are comparing Gillispie&#039;s second year to perhaps the best coach in the entire country deep into his career.  I think Self did a better job recruiting in the 2008 class than Gillispie did, but could we have honestly expected Gillispie to out-recruit the defending national champion with his first full recruiting class (keeping in mind only half the players were publicly open to be recruited, and even less were privately open).


Yes, Kansas was less experienced than us, but they returned talent/experience at the most important position.  Collins and Aldrich both would have started for 98% of all college basketball teams last year.  They just were in limited roles because Self (and Williams before him) have had that team consistently at the top for 10 years in a row.

Williams left Self 5 NBA players.  Tubby left Gillispie 2 (assuming both Meeks and Crawford actually play at that level which is generous), and those 2 didn&#039;t even play together because of Meeks&#039; injury.

Also you want to compare Gillispie to Self in a negative way, but you ignore Bill Self&#039;s history with players deciding to leave.  Also it happened fairly regular with our former coach... a person I&#039;ve never seen you speak about so negatively.


And yes... our losses to USC and Georgia can both be tied to a lack of experience/talent at the guard positions.  That and the fact that college basketball is extremely volatile.  If it wasn&#039;t, Louisville wouldn&#039;t have been blown out by Notre Dame, or lost a home game to the team we just beat handily.


Can you (or anyone) honestly say another coach would have taken last year&#039;s team through all of its injury problems and gone 12-4 in conference with a straight face?  Can you say our defense hasn&#039;t been fantastic the past two years?  Can you say Gillispie wasn&#039;t dropped into a very difficult situation being left with a team severely lacking in talent?  Can you say the recruits Gillispie has coming in his first 3 years aren&#039;t a major step up in consistency and overall talent?

Honestly the ONLY reason I can see for Coach Gillispie getting this much crap is if there is something going on off the floor I&#039;m unaware of.  Yeah, the way he talked to the sideline reporter, and the way he interacts with local media sometimes leaves a little to be desired, but that would all be erased if he was winning up to the local media/fan&#039;s standards.  The problem is those standards are irrational for a coach left with little talent in his second year...

Sorry for writing so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is you are comparing Gillispie&#8217;s second year to perhaps the best coach in the entire country deep into his career.  I think Self did a better job recruiting in the 2008 class than Gillispie did, but could we have honestly expected Gillispie to out-recruit the defending national champion with his first full recruiting class (keeping in mind only half the players were publicly open to be recruited, and even less were privately open).</p>
<p>Yes, Kansas was less experienced than us, but they returned talent/experience at the most important position.  Collins and Aldrich both would have started for 98% of all college basketball teams last year.  They just were in limited roles because Self (and Williams before him) have had that team consistently at the top for 10 years in a row.</p>
<p>Williams left Self 5 NBA players.  Tubby left Gillispie 2 (assuming both Meeks and Crawford actually play at that level which is generous), and those 2 didn&#8217;t even play together because of Meeks&#8217; injury.</p>
<p>Also you want to compare Gillispie to Self in a negative way, but you ignore Bill Self&#8217;s history with players deciding to leave.  Also it happened fairly regular with our former coach&#8230; a person I&#8217;ve never seen you speak about so negatively.</p>
<p>And yes&#8230; our losses to USC and Georgia can both be tied to a lack of experience/talent at the guard positions.  That and the fact that college basketball is extremely volatile.  If it wasn&#8217;t, Louisville wouldn&#8217;t have been blown out by Notre Dame, or lost a home game to the team we just beat handily.</p>
<p>Can you (or anyone) honestly say another coach would have taken last year&#8217;s team through all of its injury problems and gone 12-4 in conference with a straight face?  Can you say our defense hasn&#8217;t been fantastic the past two years?  Can you say Gillispie wasn&#8217;t dropped into a very difficult situation being left with a team severely lacking in talent?  Can you say the recruits Gillispie has coming in his first 3 years aren&#8217;t a major step up in consistency and overall talent?</p>
<p>Honestly the ONLY reason I can see for Coach Gillispie getting this much crap is if there is something going on off the floor I&#8217;m unaware of.  Yeah, the way he talked to the sideline reporter, and the way he interacts with local media sometimes leaves a little to be desired, but that would all be erased if he was winning up to the local media/fan&#8217;s standards.  The problem is those standards are irrational for a coach left with little talent in his second year&#8230;</p>
<p>Sorry for writing so much.</p>
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