Comments on: SEC Player of the Year comparisons http://johnclay.bloginky.com/2009/03/04/sec-player-of-the-year-comparisons/ Kentucky sports and beyond. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 15:26:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: ed http://johnclay.bloginky.com/2009/03/04/sec-player-of-the-year-comparisons/comment-page-1/#comment-5375 ed Wed, 04 Mar 2009 08:20:54 +0000 http://johnclay.bloginky.com/?p=5876#comment-5375 I don't believe Meeks will win. He's not a leader. And in some cases, as late in Saturday's LSU loss, can even be a detriment. Patterson should be higher on the list and clearly is more important to the team, game in and game out, than Meeks. I don’t believe Meeks will win. He’s not a leader. And in some cases, as late in Saturday’s LSU loss, can even be a detriment. Patterson should be higher on the list and clearly is more important to the team, game in and game out, than Meeks.

]]> By: Gary http://johnclay.bloginky.com/2009/03/04/sec-player-of-the-year-comparisons/comment-page-1/#comment-5374 Gary Wed, 04 Mar 2009 08:19:10 +0000 http://johnclay.bloginky.com/?p=5876#comment-5374 Why is it that the team that has 2 legitimate SEC Players of the Year has the worse record? Why is it that the team that has 2 legitimate SEC Players of the Year has the worse record?

]]> By: John Clay http://johnclay.bloginky.com/2009/03/04/sec-player-of-the-year-comparisons/comment-page-1/#comment-5373 John Clay Wed, 04 Mar 2009 07:38:46 +0000 http://johnclay.bloginky.com/?p=5876#comment-5373 Although the college game is a guard-oriented game, I'd probably have to say if you were forced to choose -- gun to my head -- I'd like to keep Patterson. Look at Florida. If the Gators had Patterson, they might be a top 10 team. They certainly wouldn't be on the bubble. But it's very, very, very (to use a BCG phrase) close between the two. Although the college game is a guard-oriented game, I’d probably have to say if you were forced to choose — gun to my head — I’d like to keep Patterson. Look at Florida. If the Gators had Patterson, they might be a top 10 team. They certainly wouldn’t be on the bubble. But it’s very, very, very (to use a BCG phrase) close between the two.

]]> By: Jason Jarrett http://johnclay.bloginky.com/2009/03/04/sec-player-of-the-year-comparisons/comment-page-1/#comment-5372 Jason Jarrett Wed, 04 Mar 2009 07:21:17 +0000 http://johnclay.bloginky.com/?p=5876#comment-5372 Agreed. My question is who is more valuable to Kentucky - Meeks or Patterson? If you had to let one go to the NBA, which would it be? Agreed.

My question is who is more valuable to Kentucky – Meeks or Patterson?

If you had to let one go to the NBA, which would it be?

]]> By: John Clay http://johnclay.bloginky.com/2009/03/04/sec-player-of-the-year-comparisons/comment-page-1/#comment-5371 John Clay Wed, 04 Mar 2009 07:16:22 +0000 http://johnclay.bloginky.com/?p=5876#comment-5371 I agree with that "bogus" formula. But I would also argue that Thornton's value doesn't always show up in the stats, either. He's the best player on the best team. I agree with that “bogus” formula. But I would also argue that Thornton’s value doesn’t always show up in the stats, either. He’s the best player on the best team.

]]> By: Jason Jarrett http://johnclay.bloginky.com/2009/03/04/sec-player-of-the-year-comparisons/comment-page-1/#comment-5370 Jason Jarrett Wed, 04 Mar 2009 07:13:16 +0000 http://johnclay.bloginky.com/?p=5876#comment-5370 I think he doesn't get much credit only because Meeks scores so much. Patterson's presence in the post is hard to beat. These stats do not account for that. The formula "lots of points = POY" is bogus. I think he doesn’t get much credit only because Meeks scores so much. Patterson’s presence in the post is hard to beat. These stats do not account for that.

The formula “lots of points = POY” is bogus.

]]> By: John Clay http://johnclay.bloginky.com/2009/03/04/sec-player-of-the-year-comparisons/comment-page-1/#comment-5369 John Clay Wed, 04 Mar 2009 07:02:20 +0000 http://johnclay.bloginky.com/?p=5876#comment-5369 You're right, that is a pretty strong case. I've added Patterson to the chart. You’re right, that is a pretty strong case. I’ve added Patterson to the chart.

]]> By: Jason Jarrett http://johnclay.bloginky.com/2009/03/04/sec-player-of-the-year-comparisons/comment-page-1/#comment-5368 Jason Jarrett Wed, 04 Mar 2009 06:48:25 +0000 http://johnclay.bloginky.com/?p=5876#comment-5368 Someone please remind me why Patrick Patterson is not on this list. In case some of you may have forgotten, he was SEC co-freshman of the year last year and plays for the Kentucky Wildcats. Update your list there, John. Put Patterson's stats in there and see what happens. At that point, no player leads in three distinct categories. It would be a four-way tie. Really, in my opinion, it would be a three-way tie with Meeks, Calathes, and Patterson. Thornton has two categories under his belt and it is his team's record. Patterson would lead in rebounds per game and field goal percentage. (which is amazing) He scores a lot of points even though he doesn't touch the ball much. He also shoots the ball well from the line. That is a pretty strong case, right? Someone please remind me why Patrick Patterson is not on this list. In case some of you may have forgotten, he was SEC co-freshman of the year last year and plays for the Kentucky Wildcats.

Update your list there, John. Put Patterson’s stats in there and see what happens. At that point, no player leads in three distinct categories. It would be a four-way tie. Really, in my opinion, it would be a three-way tie with Meeks, Calathes, and Patterson. Thornton has two categories under his belt and it is his team’s record.

Patterson would lead in rebounds per game and field goal percentage. (which is amazing) He scores a lot of points even though he doesn’t touch the ball much. He also shoots the ball well from the line.

That is a pretty strong case, right?

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